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		<title>India Snubs Own Nobel Prize Winner</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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India has established its own body to monitor the effects of global warming because it cannot rely on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the group headed by its own Nobel Prize-winning scientist Dr R K Pachauri. 
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<blockquote><p>India has established its own body to monitor the effects of global warming because it cannot rely on the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, the group headed by its own Nobel Prize-winning scientist Dr R K Pachauri. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>Three powerful bits of noggin leakage&#8230;</title>
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Item one.. this video.

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Hence, there are no historical analogues for CO2-induced climate change; but there are many examples of climate change-induced CO2 variations.
Carbon Dioxide &#8212; Summary at CO2 Science

			
				
			
		
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<p>Item one.. this video.</p>
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<p>Item two, <a target="_blank" href="http://icecap.us/images/uploads/NOAAroleinclimategate.pdf">this pdf..</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Hence, there are no historical analogues for CO2-induced climate change; but there are many examples of climate change-induced CO2 variations.</p>
<p>Carbon Dioxide &#8212; Summary at <a target="_blank" href="http://www.co2science.org/subject/c/summaries/carbondioxide.php">CO2 Science</a></p></blockquote>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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Even IF CO2 were an issue (which it is certainly not), one cannot avoid the obvious&#8230;. Another moronic move by George W. Bush who pushed for the Energy Bill that committed all of us to this nonsense&#8230;
&#8216;. . . A gallon of gasoline contains 124,262 British Thermal Units (BTUs) of energy, and the weight of [...]]]></description>
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<p>Even IF CO2 were an issue (which it is certainly not), one cannot avoid the obvious&#8230;. Another moronic move by George W. Bush who pushed for the Energy Bill that committed all of us to this nonsense&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>&#8216;. . . A gallon of gasoline contains 124,262 British Thermal Units (BTUs) of energy, and the weight of carbon dioxide produced by burning a gallon of gasoline is 19.56 pounds. A gallon of ethanol biofuel contains 76,000 BTUs, only 61% of the energy of gasoline, and the weight of carbon dioxide produced by burning a gallon of ethanol biofuel is 12.57 pounds. If ethanol biofuel is used to travel a distance requiring 124,262 BTUs of energy, the same distance a gallon of gasoline would travel, it would require 1.64 gallons of ethanol biofuel, with 20.55 pounds of carbon dioxide emitted into the air. Thus, using ethanol biofuel instead of a gallon of gasoline will emit about a pound more of carbon dioxide into the air.&#8217;</p>
<p>Seldon B. Graham, Jr.<br />
Legion of Honor Member of the Society of Petroleum Engineers<br />
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<p>From: <em>A question of quantities</em> by Mr. Seldon B. Graham posted out at the <a target="_blank" href="http://sppiblog.org/news/a-question-of-quantities#more-690">SPPI blog</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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Any way you look at it, the evidence for internally-forced climate change is pretty clear. Based upon this satellite evidence alone, I do not see how the IPCC can continue to ignore internally-forced variations in the climate system. The evidence for its existence is there for all to see, and in [...]]]></description>
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<p>Dr. Roy Spencer writes (yesterday):</p>
<blockquote><p>Any way you look at it, the evidence for internally-forced climate change is pretty clear. Based upon this satellite evidence alone, I do not see how the IPCC can continue to ignore internally-forced variations in the climate system. The evidence for its existence is there for all to see, and in my opinion, the IPCCs lack of diagnostic skill in this matter verges on scientific malpractice.</p></blockquote>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/01/clouds-dominate-co2-as-a-climate-driver-since-2000/">Full article here (plainly written, another smack-down of the AGW crowd)</a>
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<p>CNN asks the question?</p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/news/0912/gallery.global_warming/index.html">More Media BS</a>
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		<title>*Breaking News*  New Study: 50 Years Of Cooling Ahead!</title>
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50 years of cooling predicted by a newly released, peer reviewed, article.
Cosmic rays and chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), both already implicated in depleting the Earths ozone layer, are also responsible for changes in the global climate, a University of Waterloo scientist reports in a new peer-reviewed paper. 
&#8220;Most remarkably, the total amount of CFCs, ozone-depleting molecules that [...]]]></description>
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<p>50 years of cooling predicted by a newly released, peer reviewed, article.</p>
<blockquote><p>Cosmic rays and chlorofluorocarbons (CFCs), both already implicated in depleting the Earths ozone layer, are also responsible for changes in the global climate, a University of Waterloo scientist reports in a new peer-reviewed paper. </p>
<p>&#8220;Most remarkably, the total amount of CFCs, ozone-depleting molecules that are well-known greenhouse gases, has decreased around 2000,&#8221; Lu said. &#8220;Correspondingly, the global surface temperature has also dropped. In striking contrast, the CO2 level has kept rising since 1850 and now is at its largest growth rate.&#8221;</p>
<p>In his research, Lu discovers that while there was global warming from 1950 to 2000, there has been global cooling since 2002. The cooling trend will continue for the next 50 years, according to his new research observations.</p>
<p>As well, there is no solid evidence that the global warming from 1950 to 2000 was due to CO2. Instead, Lu notes, it was probably due to CFCs conspiring with cosmic rays. And from 1850 to 1950, the recorded CO2 level increased significantly because of the industrial revolution, while the global temperature kept nearly constant or only rose by about 0.1 C.</p></blockquote>
<p>InScience Article.. <a target="_blank" href="http://insciences.org/article.php?article_id=8012">Study shows CFCs, cosmic rays major culprits for global warming </a></p>
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Lubos is a bright fellow, very bright indeed.  And this newer posting he has is really quite excellent.  Click on the Moberg/Loehle temperature graphs to jump to The Reference Frame..
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There is no scientific basis whatsoever for saying there is a 90% probability (IPCC&#8217;s position) that most of the warming over the last 50 years was caused by human-kind. None whatsoever.
Monckton speaks with stunning common sense..  Play this for your family, your friends and your neighbors &#8211; especially your greener family members, friends, and [...]]]></description>
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<blockquote><p><strong>There is no scientific basis whatsoever for saying there is a 90% probability (IPCC&#8217;s position) that most of the warming over the last 50 years was caused by human-kind. None whatsoever.</strong></p></blockquote>
<p>Monckton speaks with stunning common sense..  Play this for your family, your friends and your neighbors &#8211; especially your greener family members, friends, and neighbors.. </p>
<p>In this interview, Lord Monckton does his best to inoculate the common man from the elitist thug.  Moreover, he is going to speak to the remaining democracies of the world in attendance at the Hoaxenhagen Climate Summate:<br />
<blockquote><strong>I am going to be talking to the delegations of the democracies. I am going to be saying to them, one by one, first of all here is the science; it no longer adds up. And everybody knows it no longer adds up, and your voters now know that it no longer adds up.  We&#8217;re moving away from that now, and moving towards a world in which once again <em>skepticism</em>, which is the proper approach of the scientist, is becoming instinct in the ordinary voters mind.</strong></p></blockquote>
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Guest contributor to Roger Pielke Sr&#8217;s blog, Madhav L Khandekar writes:
December 1, 2009&#8230;7:00 am
The debate over global warming &#038; rapid melting of world-wide glaciers and in particular the Himalayan glaciers is once again heating up. There were a flurry of reports, a few weeks ago, in the media and in particular on the BBC (UK) [...]]]></description>
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<p>Guest contributor to Roger Pielke Sr&#8217;s blog, Madhav L Khandekar writes:</p>
<blockquote><p>December 1, 2009&#8230;7:00 am</p>
<p>The debate over global warming &#038; rapid melting of world-wide glaciers and in particular the Himalayan glaciers is once again heating up. There were a flurry of reports, a few weeks ago, in the media and in particular on the BBC (UK) world-wide news service about the Himalayan glaciers melting rapidly in the face of global warming. As this debate was raging, a comprehensive report by Dr V K Raina (Himalayan glaciers: A state-of-the art review of glacial studies, glacial retreat and climate change) was released by the Indian Minister of Environment &#038; Forestry in New Delhi , India.</p>
<p>Vijay Kumar Raina, a senior glaciologist and an avid mountaineer himself, has carefully analyzed some 20 glaciers to document retreat as well as advance of some of the glaciers and has cautiously concluded that it is premature to make a statement that the Himalayan glaciers are retreating abnormally because of global warming. The Indian Minister of Environment Mr Jairam Ramesh hailed the report as an excellent latest study on glaciers and tacitly agreed with the conclusion.</p>
<p>Predictably, the IPCC chair Rajendra Pachauri reacted angrily citing the IPCC 2007 climate change reports which asserted that the (Himalayan) glaciers are receding faster than in any other part of the world and if the present rate ( of melting) continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps even sooner is very high if the earth keeps warming at the current rate. Several other Indian scientists and glaciologists have got into the debate now with some of them criticizing the Indian Government with an ostrich-like attitude in the face of impending disaster.</p>
<p>What is the reality? Let us take a closer look:</p>
<p>First, where did this number 2035 (the year when glaciers could vanish) come from?</p>
<p>According to Prof Graham Cogley (Trent University, Ontario), a short article on the future of glaciers by a Russian scientist (Kotlyakov, V.M., 1996, The future of glaciers under the expected climate warming, 61-66, in Kotlyakov, V.M., ed., 1996, Variations of Snow and Ice in the Past and at Present on a Global and Regional Scale, Technical Documents in Hydrology, 1. UNESCO, Paris (IHP-IV Project H-4.1). 78p estimates 2350 as the year for disappearance of glaciers, but the IPCC authors misread 2350 as 2035 in the Official IPCC documents, WGII 2007 p. 493!</p></blockquote>
<p>The IPCC really appears as not only the gang who couldn&#8217;t shoot straight, but it appears their curved barreled guns are loaded with more blanks than an IRS tax form&#8230;</p>
<p>Complete discussion link<a target="_blank" href="http://pielkeclimatesci.wordpress.com/2009/12/01/global-warming-and-glacier-melt-down-debate-a-tempest-in-a-teapot/"> here</a></p>
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<p>John Coleman, founder of The Weather Channel:</p>
<blockquote><p>You must know this about the leaked files.  While the emails were damming, the real meat was in sections of computer code leaked.  <strong>Skeptical climate scientists have already studied it and find it an amazing manipulation that takes real temperature data and turns into a warming fairytale.</strong> Since this data forms the baseline for the research used by the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, this is huge.  Those who counter this argument, by saying there three other data bases and the two that use surface temperatures agree with this data, need to rethink what they are saying. Think about it.  This indicates that since the Angelica University data is scientifically meaningless, and the scientists at the other centers are in constant contact with the scientists there, there is a strong likelihood their data is similarly without scientific merit. </p></blockquote>
<p>The article is essentially taking the same cautious path as <a href="http://www.ontheborderline.net/science-government-dark-ages/"> Henry Patrick out here OTBL</a>.</p>
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<p>Click pic to Monkton&#8217;s full analysis..<a target="_blank" href="http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/01/lord-moncktons-summary-of-climategate-and-its-issues/"><img src="http://www.ontheborderline.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/GreenHanded2-233x300.jpg" alt="GreenHanded2 233x300 Let The Unraveling Accelerate.." title="GreenHanded2" width="233" height="300" class="alignleft size-medium wp-image-6539" /></a></p>
<p>Various and meaningful&#8230;.</p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;The shocking truth is that the oldest readings have been cranked way down and later readings artificially lifted to give a false impression of warming, as documented below. There is nothing in the station histories to warrant these adjustments and to date Dr Salinger and NIWA have not revealed why they did this. &#8220;</strong></em> &#8230;<a target="_blank" href="http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog">ICECAP</a></p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;If you have to argue your science by using fraud, your science is not valid.&#8221;</strong></em> &#8230; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/143573/Climate-change-fraud-">Professor Ian Plimer</a></p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100018556/climategate-its-all-unravelling-now/">Telegraph&#8217;s Delingpole article..</a></p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;Along comes Steve McIntyre, a Canadian analyst, who spends two years of his own personal time reverse-engineering Dr. Mann&#8217;s PCA program.  McIntyre subjects Mann&#8217;s PCA program to a &#8220;Monte Carlo&#8221; analysis &#8211; which inserts random data sets into the function &#8211; and discovered that no matter what data he fed it, the result was always the same.  The arm of the &#8220;hockey stick&#8221; ( paleo-record ) always came out straight.  In Dr. Mann&#8217;s case, the rising temperature of the Medieval Warm Period and the expected trough of the Little Ice Age had been completely erased.  The hockey stick was broken.  Fini.  Kaput.  We may never know whether Mann&#8217;s work was deliberately contrived to fit some personal environmental agenda, or just a colossal mathematical blunder.&#8221;</strong></em>  &#8230; <a target="_blank" href="http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html">James A. Peden</a></p>
<p>ps   <em>Google may be politically correctly tinkering, or perhaps Al Gore influencing Google??  At 2:59 MST I typed c l i m a t e g a t e into the google search tool and at no point did climategate show as a &#8220;suggestion.&#8221;  This is simply bad form by Google&#8230;  shame on you!<br />
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