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I wаѕ mаԁе aware οf another astute Wisconsin Blogger wһο һаѕ ѕοmе іחtеrеѕtіחɡ аחԁ timely posts аbουt education, hmm, I mean, WEAC, іח Wisconsin. At het2blog Mike һаѕ аח article pointing out Governor Doyle’s “Expansion οf Public Education“. Seems Doyle wаחtѕ tο rate child care centers аחԁ іf tһе centers ԁο חοt hire qualified directors аחԁ teachers, һе won’t rate tһеm аѕ high! I tһіחk іf WEAC аחԁ Doyle һаԁ tһеіr way, tһеу wουƖԁ set up camp іח tһе states hospitals іח tһе maternity ward.
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Why is wrong for the Governor to want “qualified directors and teachers” in a child care center.
I am starting to get the conversations here. You want uncertified care for your children so you can pay teachers as “unprofessionals” and lower your taxes. Sorry, that is why we have a union, to protect us from individuals who think teachers deserve less and are lower class citizens.
smasini – Doyle can rate child care centers as much as he likes – he just better not plan on having them funded by taxpayers. I suppose next we can look forward to having the government decide which women are allowed to have kids too!
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I wonder if this will mean I’ll need to purchase a permit before I can sleep with my wife! After all, it seems to take lots of money to pay those “lower class citizens”, but even more to pay those union “professionals”.
Mr. Masini is starting to show his true colors here. First of all, why does he feel the need to be “protected”? If he was as good a teacher as he says he is, then he should be arguing for a free market system with regards to teacher pay.
Secondly, who is he to determine what is best for our children? I always find it amazing that we can make many decisions in our life without the help of the educational establishment, but when it comes to our children people like Mr. Masini know what’s best.
Taxboy, we need protection from right wing fundamentalists who judge teachers before they know what type of teacher they are, which would be you. We need to be protected from people like you who expect teachers to be paid as little as possible, so little they cannot support a family. You have so little respect for our profession it’s disgusting. I only wish you would put your profession out here for me to discuss, because I am sure I could find as many faults with what you do, undermine what you do, belittle what you do as you do for my profession.
Once again, I find myself in here to figure out what is going on with politics, the government, education, etc… and ending up sticking up for our teachers. As I said in a previous comment, leave the teachers out of your petty bickering and get to the root of the problem. Go above these citizens who are probably some of the few (besides hopefully parents) who truly want what is best for the kids in the community and go after the forces that exist. For example, the “union” that actually involves very few of the teachers although they are all “forced” to be in it. Go after the funding for special ed so that you can get a true read on what it is actually costing to educate our kids. Go after all of those people involved in the politics of running the show, but leave the teachers out and give them (most of them) their due. Kudos Mr. Masini and well put!!
Mr. Masini – it is you that seems to think government must decide who can care and teach our children. It is you suggesting those teaching in the private sector are the one’s that are “unprofessional”. When it comes to being paid “as little as possible”, I’ll let you in on a little secret – that’s how it works in a free market society. The private sector doesn’t have a cushion like the one you enjoy coming off the backs of the taxpayers. In my job, I have to do well to get paid well and my customers can take their business elsewhere if they don’t feel they are getting their monies worth. You hide behind a union and are fed off the worth of my home value. If you were a true “professional” as you say, then your worth in the private sector would be based like the rest of us. The part you’re forgetting is, its my dollars that pay you. This makes you my employee, one who I can question and judge your worth whenever I feel I’m not getting my monies worth. If you don’t like working for me, find a job in the private sector. If you can’t take the pressure of having to compete to keep your job, it makes me wonder how good a teacher you really are!
What on God’s green earth does child care and child care centers have to do with over -paid, under-worked union teachers and intrusion of the government into our lives? I say over-paid because they take pay and benefits of an above average wage earner. I say under-worked, because they only instruct 5-6 periods a day and start at 7:30 am and are on their way home at 3:30 pm. They are protected by a union, they do not need to prove their worth, and then they complain as Mr. Masini does. Now , since Mr. Masini is the one that started all of this trying to justify his existence, maybe he can refresh our memories as to why we need more intrusion into our lives by the state! Why can a private school teacher do a great job, get paid a fraction of the cost of the public sector, manage to stay employed for years and years with no union, love kids, and still be happy in life? The answer is that they enjoy what that do for a “fair” market wage and they don’t need union bully’s to extract money out of someone else’s pockets.
Some people make career changes, maybe Mr. Masini needs one to try to prove his worth to society instead of insisting that people bow down at the feet of him, his union, and his state that rob people of their earnings forcefully.
Have a good day at school tomorrow!
Mr. Masini is showing us what is wrong with public education here in Hudson. How dare someone challenge him for if he just knew who we were he could take revenge on us all. Isn’t that how it works Scott?
Here’s the game in a nutshell. When a person has kids in the system they are afraid to speak out for fear of retaliation against them and their kids. When a person doesn’t have kids in the system they are told they can’t speak out because they don’t have an “interest” in the process.
Let me tell you something Mr. Masini, I don’t need you to judge me or my profession. Like kilowatt my customers let me know every day whether or not I’m doing a good job. You see they can take their money elsewhere if I’m not performing as expected. Can you say the same for your customers?
Scott, yes there was $300,000 left last year in the taxpayer’s pockets that you didn’t get to rob. No wonder your so steamed!
After a brief lull in the action, things heated up rapidly. I would first of all remind everyone to read my pieces titled “Testimony” and “It is not about Tea”. In “Testimony” I stated that one’s actions is more powerful to the true nature of a situation than any rhetoric or evidence. Mr. Smasini, I do not believe I know you and certainly have no evidence of your abilities in the classroom one way or another. What I can say, not only for myself but for others I know who are in this debate, is that I do not care what a person makes as long as it is arrived by the forces of the free market. A baseball player making millions of dollars through the competitive bidding process is okay. Personally I have a choice in attending or watching a game that makes me a contributor to that player’s salary. If I do not participate as a spectator, then it is no cost to me. It is once again my choice. If your salary was based on a competitive basis where I had the choice to contribute or not, then simply more power to you if the market values your services with great financial reward. However, your own testimony that you need protection from free market forces, just as the public school apologists claim they need protection from free choice, may say more about how you view your own self worth. That is a pointed statement to be sure but it is not directed necessarily as an evaluation of you the person. A truly talented person would despise being locked into a collective bargaing arrangement where the purpose is more to protect the mediocre than to reward the talented. A highly talented teacher would reap rewards many times over their now current 3% increases.
Thomas Jefferson once said, “that no man has the right to tax another for his own benefit”. I would add in a society based on free choice, “that no man has the right to coerce others in forfeiting their rights of individual choice for their own benefit”. So when you say you need protection from the forces of the market Mr. Smasini, you are asking the rest of society to forfeit free choice. And that viewpoint is very troubling considering that you stand in front of impressionable children whose parents do not have true choice in education.
One final point, kilowatt is correct what he said about paying your salary and that the taxpayer is your employer. One step further is that not only do we pay your salary, but also your union dues. In “Its not about Tea”, I stated this battle is purely about politics and power. I am being forced to financially support political viewpoints of N.E.A. or W.E.A.C that are not espoused by not only myself but a majority of voters in this country. Through this arrangement we have lost political free choice. And that Mr. Smasini and the point you are missing Getagrip, this is tyranny staring at you from the school house door. You may deny it Mr. Smasini, but you and your fellow teachers union members are a willing participant in undercutting the very foundations of this country!