The following was forward to me by Bil Danielson (the author) for publication here – all rights reserved.
If you supported (or attended) the protests in Madison over collective bargaining, you were exercising your freedom of speech. If you protested the protestors in Madison, you too were exercising your freedom of speech. Freedom of speech is, in fact, what I would consider an inviolable, sacrosanct, principle of American-style democracy and fully reflects the brilliant enlightenment ideology of our founders and the founding documents they penned. It doesn’t mean you are endowed with some un-sourced, uncaused, supernaturally or socially granted right to say what you want, wherever, and whenever. Freedom of speech is fundamentally premised upon the recognition and due respect for the property upon which one speaks – it is a reflection and outgrowth of the fundamental of individual rights.
When you have permission from those who have ownership of said property to speak, you are enjoying the freedom of speech, properly understood. If you do not have their permission, and speak anyway, you are wrongfully trespassing and violating their pre-emptive right to hold and enjoy property privately. This means the land upon which you are holding your sign, or speaking into your megaphone; the building in which you rise to deliver your message; the radio station or television studio in which you are crafting your words and images; or, indeed, the very web page upon which you are posting your thoughts (video, writing, audio message). Since we the people have granted to government the unique use of physical force in our society, they have a profound role to uphold the individual rights of property owners who invite-or give permission to-people to speak. We have the right to speak our minds provided we do not violate the actual rights of others in the process – my individual rights end where yours begin. Were you or I invited onto private property to speak and demonstrate, and the police (or anyone) used force to unilaterally silence such speech THAT would be a violation of your freedom to speak and the property rights of the landowner. Alternatively, if you run into a lecture hall where an invited speaker is presenting views you are opposed to, and begin to shout, interrupting the speaker, it is YOU who are violating the speaker’s (and the venue owner’s) freedom of speech – you are NOT legitimately exercising your own freedom, but rather preventing someone else from it.
If you were one of the impassioned protestors in Madison who showed up on the steps of the capital, on either side of the debate, you were exercising this protected right and the principles behind it. You were not hauled off to jail as a consequence of protesting against Governor Walker because the land upon which you demonstrated is owned, theoretically, by no one in particular, and everyone simultaneously, i.e. public property. If we lived in a dictatorship, Governor Walker could have simply ordered the Capital Police to seize your signs, and toss you in jail. Protesting on public lands is, in fact, a unique case in an otherwise general freedom of speech. It is the government’s agents responsibility to ensure that your right to speak is protected, and not violated – whether it be on public lands (while abiding the reasonable access rules needed), or, especially, on private property. The worst case of all is where the government presumes ownership of all property and simply uses its unique access to physical force to censor you from speaking out merely because the message you want to deliver is either antagonistic to, or otherwise inconsistent with, official government policy. Tied for first worst, you are hauled off, or censored, because someone standing next to you, who you don’t know or perhaps don’t even agree with, held up a sign or played some audio that the government didn’t appreciate, or violated someone’s intellectual property rights, and therefore you were summarily denied the right to speak (or even remain on the premises because the government could condemn the property forthwith) by use of the force of government – all without any due process. That is what happens in a dictatorship, or any overtly tyrannical, or theocratic/religious, state.
Which brings me to SOPA (and PIPA) –ill-conceived legislation supported by the Motion Pictures Association of America (MPAA), and others who claim (correctly) that piracy of protected material is a problem on the internet. The stated intention of this expansion of the Federal Government’s power over the internet is ostensibly to protect intellectual property, such as music, video content, and literature. While protecting the individual rights of intellectual property owners IS a legitimate function of government, it cannot be the case that such protection simultaneously tramples the rights of other’s free speech in the process. But that is exactly what this legislation would do. The legislation’s fundamental premise is that the internet is actually the property of the United States Government, and as such those who happen to be in power today can unilaterally use force to restrict your and my ability to exercise our freedom of speech, properly understood. The proponents of SOPA view the internet as being owned by the United States Government, and therefore subject not just to protection of intellectual property, but to the overt use of force to shut down entire websites and internet communities without the application of the rule of law. This is wrong, it is a violation of property rights, and in fact a violation of the individual rights of website owners and other content producers.
As stated on Wikipedia’s site “The originally proposed bill would allow the U.S. Department of Justice, as well as copyright holders, to seek court orders against websites accused of enabling or facilitating copyright infringement. Depending on who makes the request, the court order could include barring online advertising networks and payment facilitators from doing business with the allegedly infringing website, barring search engines from linking to such sites, and requiring Internet service providers to block access to such sites. The bill would make unauthorized streaming of copyrighted content a crime, with a maximum penalty of five years in prison for ten such infringements within six months. The bill also gives immunity to Internet services that voluntarily take action against websites dedicated to infringement, while making liable for damages any copyright holder who knowingly misrepresents that a website is dedicated to infringement.[4]”
This is analogous to all the protestors against Governor Walker who were on the grounds of the capital in Madison being hauled off, en-masse, because a single protestor on the other side of the block held up a sign that violated the copyright of some third party. If you or I violate a copyright in our activity on the internet, if someone pirates intellectual property, that is a problem and piracy laws are already in force. But trampling the rights of otherwise innocent website owners and their law abiding site visitors is not the solution – but that is exactly what SOPA would do.
I rarely agree with Hillary Clinton, but I do agree with her when she said: “When ideas are blocked, information deleted, conversations stifled and people constrained in their choices, the Internet is diminished for all of us.. There isn’t an economic Internet and a social Internet and a political Internet. There’s just the Internet.”
Today Wikipedia, and numerous other sites, are offline to protest this proposed legislation. I stand in full support of Wiki in this matter. Oppose SOPA! If such laws are allowed to pass in America, then we deserve the noose because we have given the government the rope and the authority to tie the knot.
Republican Presidential contender Herman Cain in an interview said the anger of Wall Street protestors was aimed in the wrong direction. He said the protestors have no one to blame but themselves for their lot in life. Furthermore, Cain told the protestors to quit pointing the finger at big banks, rich people, and capitalism; they need to look toward the failed policies of the Obama administration. Though I agree with Cain in general, he missed several important points either out of ignorance or political calculation.
The best description of our current economic environment would be fascism where government and business partner in policy decisions that help the latter protect its fiefdoms. In return government officials enrich their personal wealth through increased power and graft. Fascism gives the illusion of a capitalist system gone awry, which according to the power brokers even more government regulation. The result is what we are experiencing today where wealth shifts toward a few at the top in government and business. The middle class is wiped out through direct taxation and the hidden tax of inflation.
The other evil spinning the economy into a death spiral is the Federal Reserve along with the component of fractional reserve banking that flourishes by turning money into debt. Yes, the banks are responsible for this mess. The banking systems manipulation of interest rates for the intention of nudging individuals from savers to debtors for profit borders on criminal. And when the debt goes bad, banks come to government for a taxpayer financed handout. I say bordering on because the individual has the freedom to say no just like the students that find themselves hopelessly indebted for life in order to pay for higher education.
Speaking of education debt, how come no one has fingered the state university systems colleges and easy government loans for embellishing a myth on the youth? Get a degree, any degree, to acquire a good income. Your debt is an investment that will pay a return of a hundred-fold they tell the ignorant. While graduates scrape to get by under the yoke of student loans, university Presidents and administration dine on white linen and drink fine wine. The present day education system is just another fascist face to the economy.
It is time for a candidate running for any office, especially President of the United States, to bluntly state the facts. Ron Paul with his Austrian philosophy has for many years. Herman Cain shows some promise, but does he understand what is really going on.
Remember earlier this year when the teacher unión thugs walked out of school to hole up in the state capitol to protest the Walker Budget Repair Bill. Their rationale for the illegal strike was for the kids, of course.
This week showed a completely different scene. Large protests were expected in Madison as the Legislature finalized the budget. An array of non-worker, workers and general bums erected a tent city near the Capitol. The protestors had planned to encircle the grounds of the statehouse with a giant human chain.
Several months ago the same location was littered with tens of thousands of non-worker, workers that could have formed several chains. A few days ago, however, the numbers had comparatively diminished so great that a chain could not be completed even while standing within close proximity to the Capitol building.
Remember also when throngs of non-worker, workers and their bussed in buddies from out of state congregated for group chanting in Hudson. Today, the Moore union thugs were to meet in town. The protestors’ numbers almost could not field a football team.
What happened to the masses that arrogantly walked out off the job for the kids? What changed over the last few months? Apparently teachers are only dedicated protestors when it is on the student’s time. After all it is summer vacation and protesting would mean sacrificing their personal leisure time. Now I call that dedication.
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On Sunday, Timothy “I can’t figure my own taxes” Geitner stated in no uncertain terms that we (meaning the Federal Government of the United States) actually can have our cake and eat it too.. All we need to do, says Geitner, is tax the rich and raise the debt ceiling..
About 20 minutes later, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan indicated that it is and has been for the longest time irrational to him that we even HAVE a debt ceiling law..
Today, (first time in history, I believe but I could be wrong) Standard & Poors Ratings Services Inc. cut its outlook on the U.S. to negative, increasing the likelihood of a potential downgrade from its triple-A rating, as the path from large budget deficits and rising government debt remains unclear.
S&P analyst Nikola G. Swann stated that:”More than two years after the beginning of the recent crisis, U.S. policy makers have still not agreed on how to reverse recent fiscal deterioration or address longer-term fiscal pressures.” Swan went on to note that the rating agency puts the chance of a U.S. downgrade within two years at least one-in-three.
Now, Greenspan’s comments on the heels of Geitner’s was interesting insofar as he was pointing out the rediculous nature of what Geitner was suggesting.. Essentially, why have a law that states you have a debt ceiling when you simply vote to raise it everytime you need to spend beyond your means. What was implicit in Geitner’s pipedream, and sage reflection by Greenspan (who I do not always agree with) was the fundamental premise that America can borrow, tax, and spend at will with no consequence… That, in fact, economics stops at the gate to the Federal Reserve… Also, and this bears some reflection, none of this occurs in an international vacuum.. please note that roughly 24 hours ago China further tightened its monetary policy.
Folks, this is akin to an auto driver leading a caravan of protestors heading for Madison who has decided to drive 85 instead of 65 in very inclement weather with ice and snow on the road. He gets pulled over, along with 5 other motorists, by the State Patrol. The officer starts to issue citations and the first motorist says, “wait, stop, we’re all going to protest, and we have a right to protest, so we’re going to have a vote by the road here to see if the speed limit should be increased to 86 (retroactively) … and, by the way, majority rules, i.e. a democratic vote…”
The vote was 6 for and 1 against, no tickets were issued. 30 miles down the road all 5 followers were involved in a multi-car accident that killed 12, jammed the interstate for hours, and caused (all things considered) a couple $million in costs … including the lives o two women and their unborn fetuses. The lives and future generations will never be the same…
And the lead driver? He never saw the accident behind him because the snow cloud he was creating in his wake was simply too thick…
The rationale given by the Obama administration for our involvement over the skies of Libya is to help protect the anti-government forces from the onslaught of the troops supporting the Gadaffi regime. In the meantime, anti-government protestors in Syria have come under a barrage of fire where dozens of Syrians have been killed or injured.
Why do we stick our nose in Libya, but not Syria? Since the Obama administration and many Neo-cons believe in the righteousness of our military involvement to protect anti-government forces, what would they think if Texas, for instance, seceded from the US government? Would Obama turn the military, like Ghaddafi and Asad of Syria, on the anti-government citizens? Would the United Nations call for a no-fly zone over the United States?
In this edition of Sunday Night Snippet, the question of the reaction by the Obama administration to secession is contemplated.
The guest traveling with the Governor of Vermont raised his hand. Senator Toms invited the gentleman to come before the rest and share his thoughts. The man took his place next to the Oklahoma Senator and without saying a word gave the gesture recognized by most people as the Italian gesture for “up yours”. The room instantly broke into a roar of laughter. When the crowd settled down after a few minutes, Governor Toms, still chuckling, again addressed the question. “So, how do we do it?”
Prodded by his good friend the Senator of Alabama, Governor Pike hesitantly came forward to speak. “Governor, the floor is yours.” Said Senator Toms as he joined those seated on the floor.
“I have thought seriously, as I am sure most of you have, about this question since Senator Seagroves first brought the topic of secession to my attention. Like I told Jeff a few weeks back, in my view the South prior to the start of t Read More→
The reality is clear, the delusions rampant. At the end of the day, you must pick one or the other for, as Dr. Hsieh adeptly puts it: “ultimately these two cannot be reconciled, one or the other has to go..” Unless, of course, you prefer to live as a self-deluded hypocrit.. which pretty much describes the Republican Party in its current manifestation… As well as the secular left.
Which brings up one of the key points in Dr Hsieh’s podcast. That being if you are a committed Christian your political home is not with the Republicans, but rather and clearly with the Democrats. Democrats who morally defend their collectivist actions and programs (such as, and rather profoundly, the protestors who were arguing “tax the rich”) by an appeal to their Christian ethics actually have the high ground, Republicans who argue the opposite for reasons of long range planning, free markets in education, etc., simply have no moral argument – theirs is full-on subjectivity. Unless, of course, they have a morality premised not on Christianity, but rather individual rights: rational self-interest.
Make your choice, you have no other… and your time is running out.
Dr Diana Hsieh’s Noodlecast (Episode #62: Rationally Selfish Webcast – excerpt on Capitalism v Christianity).
After observing the protesting teachers’ union thugs and their supporters up close after an Americans for Prosperity rally yesterday, it is becoming more obvious that we are headed for civil war. The chasm between the two parties is the same divide that seperates truth and a lie or a victim and a thief. Common ground does not exist.
The protestors were allowed to demonstrate outside the property bounds of the motel where the AFP had gathered. After the meeting, protestors who had no intention of engaging in commerce entered the Hudson House for the purpose of confronting State Senator Shelia Harsdorf. The exchanges that took place revealed a collective think of entitlement.
My personal encounter went something like the following:
I asked several of the goons what moral right of collective bargaining they held that forced me to pay the union dues that went toward a political agenda contrary to my beliefs. The salary they receive comes from my taxes, which in turn pays union dues that ends up in the coffers of political candidates who favor more taxation and restriction of personal freedoms.
The response was eye-opening. The thug’s view saw no difference in my question then when they shop at Wal-Mart and the company uses their money to support candidates and causes of their choice. A thief could make a similar defensive analogy in that when they go to a store the proprietor eventually takes their money; taking is common to the action of the thief and the store.
Of course the former is forced upon an individual while the act of shopping at a store is voluntary.
Toeing the union line, every teacher complained how they only made $40,000 and the cost of living made it hard to have a decent life. From the looks of their ages, I doubt every teacher that we encountered made $40,000 or less, plus being single. When talking compensation, they always fail to mention benefits paid mostly by taxpayers plus nearly four months of vacation. If the argument begins with obfuscating the truth, then the answer to the problem cannot be found. I voiced loudly that if they did not like the working conditions, then like any other worker in the country resignation was always an option. Many could be found to replace them.
In another conversation, a protestor saw nothing wrong with the fourteen Senators fleeing the state. The electoral process in the past that had so well served government workers now needed to be stopped. Democracy is only a virtue when it serves their desires. Coincidentally, this man from the DNR admitted to contributing not one penny to his pension.
When the mob spotted Shelia Harsdorf exiting the motel, they broke the line of private property and surrounded her vehicle. In doing so they not only presented a threat to safety, but denied othersthe ability to enter or leave the property. As we have now witnessed over the last two weeks, private property rights mean little to bullies or in fact to thieves.
Perhaps “Joe the Plumber” said it best. The divide in the country is between those that feel they deserve something versus others who truly believe in freedom where the word “deserve” does not exist. Philosophically, citizens in the country rest in two camps with no common ground.
Playboy Roy, looking dashing in his matching outfit
We’d like to welcome you to a new segment of Ontheborderline. We’ll take a close look at what goes on behind the scenes at the local fishwrap newspaper in Hudson. Many of the most vile liberals in town seem to work there and you can see their communist way of thinking in the “stories” that they write.
Our first interview will be with the liberal puke Handy Ranson and Playboy Roy. Handy is a tool of the lefties, always advocating for higher taxes and more government. Handy sometimes puts his name to articles and sometimes he hides behind the “Our View” editorial. Either way, you can tell it’s him with the editorial slant. His article about the government union thug protesters this week was no different. And Playboy Roy, well he’s the guy that is always wanting to steal from his neighbors (and sometimes not just their money…..).
So here is Handy Ranson and his local hero Playboy Roy, behind the scenes…..
Handy- So what did you think of the article Playboy?
Playboy Roy – Great work Handy. I love the way you slanted the article in favor of the union thugs. And nice picture of me by the way. I thought I looked rather dashing in my matching outfit.
Handy – Thanks Playboy. I do the best I can to influence the people of Hudson. Did you like the way I called you a “prominent Hudsonsite”? I thought that was pretty clever.
Playboy Roy – You printed it just the way I told you to Handy. Couldn’t have done it better myself. I can’t wait to run against Sheila Harsdorf in a recall election.
Handy – We’ll do the best we can to promote you Playboy. I’ll try to keep those stories about your marital infidelities out of the paper.
Playboy – Sounds good Handy. And don’t let the average people of Hudson know that I make tons of money off of the government workers planning their estates okay? That wouldn’t look very good.
Handy – Got it Playboy. Now I’ve got to get back to work. Plenty of left leaning stories to write this week.
Playboy – Great, me too. There’s got to be somebody I can sue today…..
With local teacher union President and Spanish teacher Scott Ellingson in Madison to protest a bill that would require him to actually pay for something like part of his pension and health insurance, students in Spanish actually learned more than si, grande, and nacho grande. My ciphering calculates that to be 3/5 of word per month. One student’s Spanish improved so much that Taco John hired him to manage the potato oles’. At least now when I pull up to the drive-in window and order a numero dos the kid doesn’t try to take a dump on my car.
The kiddies across the state also learned that it is not about them as in it is about the kids. No it is about their pensions and healthcare and the kids are just shield to hide the thuggery of the teachers unions. The desperate cowards even used the kiddies as protestors. The good thing is that the kids finally got more of an education then they had for the last twelve years listening to some dimwitted, dickless (that goes for the male teachers too) government union teacher.
Listening to these kids out on the street shows what twelve years of government learning can do to a perfectly good brain. You have to love the one kid in this clip” we trying to stop some dude from doing something”. I bet he is on the honor roll!
If you see a teacher, tell them thanks for showing everyone who they really are.
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On Sunday, Timothy “I can’t figure my own taxes” Geitner stated in no uncertain terms that we (meaning the Federal Government of the United States) actually can have our cake and eat it too.. All we need to do, says Geitner, is tax the rich and raise the debt ceiling..
About 20 minutes later, former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan indicated that it is and has been for the longest time irrational to him that we even HAVE a debt ceiling law..
Today, (first time in history, I believe but I could be wrong) Standard & Poors Ratings Services Inc. cut its outlook on the U.S. to negative, increasing the likelihood of a potential downgrade from its triple-A rating, as the path from large budget deficits and rising government debt remains unclear.
S&P analyst Nikola G. Swann stated that:”More than two years after the beginning of the recent crisis, U.S. policy makers have still not agreed on how to reverse recent fiscal deterioration or address longer-term fiscal pressures.” Swan went on to note that the rating agency puts the chance of a U.S. downgrade within two years at least one-in-three.
Now, Greenspan’s comments on the heels of Geitner’s was interesting insofar as he was pointing out the rediculous nature of what Geitner was suggesting.. Essentially, why have a law that states you have a debt ceiling when you simply vote to raise it everytime you need to spend beyond your means. What was implicit in Geitner’s pipedream, and sage reflection by Greenspan (who I do not always agree with) was the fundamental premise that America can borrow, tax, and spend at will with no consequence… That, in fact, economics stops at the gate to the Federal Reserve… Also, and this bears some reflection, none of this occurs in an international vacuum.. please note that roughly 24 hours ago China further tightened its monetary policy.
Folks, this is akin to an auto driver leading a caravan of protestors heading for Madison who has decided to drive 85 instead of 65 in very inclement weather with ice and snow on the road. He gets pulled over, along with 5 other motorists, by the State Patrol. The officer starts to issue citations and the first motorist says, “wait, stop, we’re all going to protest, and we have a right to protest, so we’re going to have a vote by the road here to see if the speed limit should be increased to 86 (retroactively) … and, by the way, majority rules, i.e. a democratic vote…”
The vote was 6 for and 1 against, no tickets were issued. 30 miles down the road all 5 followers were involved in a multi-car accident that killed 12, jammed the interstate for hours, and caused (all things considered) a couple $million in costs … including the lives o two women and their unborn fetuses. The lives and future generations will never be the same…
And the lead driver? He never saw the accident behind him because the snow cloud he was creating in his wake was simply too thick…
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